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So, Today (August 2015) the newest N0CRD 442.625 repeater will sport the Yaesu DR1-1x Fusion controller.

Allowing data, GPRS, C4-FM, FM and allows transfer of picture information among many other features!


Last Updated on Friday, 07 August 2015 21:08

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Response from Dan Stark, N0CRD,

concerning the article…  “The Last Word” in the ARRL Contact, January 2015

ARRL’s Centennial is now over. The candles have been blown out of the birthday cake, and now that the Centennial QSO Party is over, the bands seem awfully quiet in comparison.

The inevitable question that hangs in the air is, “now what?”


Well, at 70 years of age and looking back, I have always been a dreamer and experimenter! Not afraid to walk into an area I am not familiar with. Willing to make big mistakes to learn and apply new found results. Taking a risk to experience the gain of knowledge or rewards that step might bring.  I have always been a risk taker and some times failing miserably. But not always! Sometimes the rewards are really fruitful!

An Amateur Radio license is your ticket to experimentation. Experimentation is how you learn!  Don’t be afraid of it!  However, before you do take a risk, learn all you can and minimize the risk!

Risk taking might be the very trait that has built my strong background in Electronics, Computers and Amateur Radio!  Because of this trait I have always been a little ahead of the technology curve, for my age, even before I was ten years old.

My first experiment (a confession) as I recall at the age of ten or eleven.  I was listening to a AM broadcast radio science show (about circa 1954) describing how you could make a microphone out of several pencil leads by laying them across two razor blade (sharp edges up) and with the two wire leads (for the audio) coming off the two razor blades.  What I didn’t understand at the time was this was audio not 110 volt ac.  Not knowing the difference at the time, Of course, when I connected the razors to the 110v outlet… a hole was quickly burned into the carpet!  No one in my family or neighborhood understood this process nor appreciated it! Nor did they offer to tell me why this result happened!  They did inform me what would happen should I do it again on the new carpet!  This failed experiment, for me, started a whole new search for answers, and maybe a vocation!

Yes even in my lifetime professional occupations, the same reasoning (only now educated) would lead to daring and bold moves to learn, experiment and apply. And without getting to deep into resumes, you can be assured that I have traveled the bleeding edge nationally and some internationally, learning, marketing and successfully applying some very new technologies in electronics, communications and software… The bleeding edge is a roller coaster ride you would never forget!  Better to stay close to the cutting edge. The thrill keeps leading you back to the beginning of the loop! You will want to discover more and more once you go down this road!

That being said, I have always wondered why amateur radio hasn’t walked into some of those bleeding / cutting edge areas of activity? Don’t get me wrong, I understand and have participated in the Amateur Radio forefront of communication experimentation, including communication in space, weather, GPS, digital and a host of other things. But I don’t see a whole lot of progress in the area of Amateur Radio and (AIML) artificial intelligence! It is a perfect fit!

I do understand that most hams have to work with what manufactures have made available to the market. Operators in general rely on excellent Ham or commercial equipment, and so do I.  This is the story that I am challenging concerning “Where do we go?”

It seems very exciting to me to watch and participate in the development of I-Phone, Android, Google, Internet, search engines and space technology.  Amateur Radio has made it possible over the years to grow with and use all these technologies.

Now, Software Defined Radio (SDR) is going to challenge every thing we are accustomed to understanding and using in our hobby.  Not just in how we access, tune and handle.. It is going to change how we actually use the radio for communication.

You see SDR is software, the programming of the computer using code languages. The code / software will control everything.  Yes, even the spoken word, response or action.

On the local Kansas City 6 meter repeater we have just activated, which is controlled by a” computer, every detail of the legality for Ham use (less the observation of who is using it) is pretty well covered and complied with the software controlling. It knows when to ID, time out, announce messages, insert a beep tone. And yes, soon I hope, it will hold a conversation with you.  It is the latest risk I am employing to learn exactly how to make the result a pleasant and useful one for all Amateur Radio operators that use this repeater.

It is far beyond a pipe dream.  Anyone with a little bit of experience in the Electronics, Computers and Amateur Radio area could do this!  It is not a fully developed field, but sufficiently enough we should have these Amateur Radio auto bots active abundantly in our community repeaters in the next ten years.

The conversation from the repeater A.I.M.L. controller being communication concerning Ham Radio, Emergency Services, weather, math, radio principals, formulas and just about anything (non commercial) you can derive out of the Amateur Radio Handbook or other “on line” or storage device sources.  .

How will it do this? If the Amateur radio Hand Book (or any other Amateur Radio Source) can be reduced to a data form, locally or streaming in from afar, to a central (repeater controller).  The central controlling computer could

1. Search for interpretation of the speech request or command (Speech Recognition available in most Microsoft windows,7 +) reference ( ttp://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/set-speech-recognition#1TC=windows-7)

2. Search for the correct response via all allowed resources (think Google search or use the A.I.M.L. data sets search system. (See more at A.L.I.C.E. http://www.alicebot.org/aiml.html  )

3. Then the same computer controller could be equipped with Text to Speech software for responding to questions you are asking via your Amateur Radio Handheld.  The same response could do it with a human derived personality voice (Reference.. http://sheepridge.pandorabots.com/pandora/talk?botid=fef38cb4de345ab1&skin=iframe-voice )

In Amateur Radio Television (A5) you could even see an animated character talking to you responding with your answers (or requesting more clarification).   And what about streaming video over the wide bands we haven’t used much yet. Think about smart phones, video and data. Our 900 MGHZ and up might allow for some real experimentation in this area! Equipment seems to be everywhere. All we have to do is learn how to convert and use!

In the digital mode, guess what, all the above information could be presented.  The whole process is already a digital state.  Where do you want to go?  What do you want to learn?  How do you want to interact with your hobby, profession or skill set?

Perhaps what we as Amateur Radio Operators, experimenters and entrepreneurs should be doing as Elmer’s, clubs and  organizations, is target in where we want to be. Knowing where we want to be will allow us to target our learning, teaching, experimenting and goal setting.

This is the future of Amateur Radio and the future is available now. Who wants to get aboard.


November 2014 KC 6 Meter Repeater Update

The one thing I like about the Amateur Radio Hobby is that there is no deadline on any given project one might take on. Therefor allowing for the sharing, study, experimentation and building of projects to your liking! As one amateur put it.. "it is like the making of fine wine!" slow but sure.
Currently transmitting 70 to 80 watts out from Olathe Kansas, with the transmit antenna at only 30 to 40 ft. with a vertical polarized J-Pole transmit antenna.
Currently in the hunt for a better(100ft or so) elevation for the central transmitter and receiver nodes and a way to boost the power to 200 or 300 watts.
The power solution is being worked on by experimenting with the pairing of 2 each 110 watt RF Power Amplifier units (salvaged from old GE Ranger 110 watt rigs) to achieve 200 watts. I am told you can do two pair of pairs to achieve 300 watts or better. Have the finals on hand and since the Ensor Auction I now have the 50 amp power supply needed. Will keep you updated down the road.

With a J Pole near the water tower location, and as a fixed, tuned, receive antenna in Independence MO, we are getting good reports from some of the higher elevations in Independence. But most in that area are not equipped with a tuned 6 meter Ant. A receive node will be placed in that area when we get the basic power and central location solved.

With these limitations and the current Transmitter height and power, The 6 meter repeater is not doing so well in the KC metro wide area coverage.
Output...  52.97 (pl 91.5)..  Input is 51.27  (pl 91.5)
We are equipped (the voting unit) for up to 10 each receive nodes. However, today we only have 2 each receive node locations in actual operation. They work very well. Without better central unit placement or power out increase, We can only hope to serve better the area which we can cover.

The link freq for all 5 current programmed link receivers is 434.5. All 5 having a different pl tones. Each link being feed with a pair of homebrew 434.5 stacked Qagis'.

#1  Shawnee, KS Receive node covering up to Riverside, MO  PL tone is 203.5
#2  Olathe, KS  Receive node covering really well to Southern Springhill and as far south as the Paolas, club repeater site on 68 highway.. ( in my mobile at least) PL tone 162.2
#3  PL Tone 88.3  Built but Not in service yet.
#4  PL Tone 192.8  Built but Not in service yet.
#5  PL tone 151.4  Built but Not in service yet.

The biggest problem we have at this juncture.. is either increasing the elevation of the transmit Antenna / or Power. Either or both would then allow a larger outlying area for the receive nodes to be placed.

See more at http://www.gracetime.com/n0crd

Currently (while waiting for these solutions to arise) I am also doing research and programing on the possibility to install a personal Amateur Radio assistant / talking robot in the 6 meter machine. His name will be "Elmer".

In this process I am learning much about chat bots, personal assistants,
AIML - The Artificial Intelligence Markup Language
The A.L.I.C.E. AI Foundation promotes the adoption of the A.L.I.C.E. and AIML free open source software for chatrobots, chat robots, chatterbots or chatterboxes.


Just a quick update.. KC 6 meter repeater project...October 2014...  KC 6 meter / Metro update

Well...  6 meters may not be dead after all!  It is good that others are pursuing this band! The new 53.55 / 224.880 repeaters in Warrensburg is a good start.. and will encourage more use of the band.

I see more and more 6 meter / 220 new handhelds being sold on E-bay!  That is a good sign!

While the 52.97 machine is already serving a very large area on the Kansas side... with Receive nodes in Shawnee and Olathe.. and WORKING VERY WELL FOR OVER 120 DAYS NOW.

I have decided that while tweaking the existing  52.97 machine and waiting on the additional right receive node location solutions here in KC... along with an elevated location for the central voting unit / transmitter... And because most of the 6 meter machine and building project is complete)...

I am going to bring alive a Automated intelligence device.. to be added to the 6 meter repeater.. His name will be "Elmer".. a talking robot attached to the 6 meter repeater. He will be an Amateur Radio advisory (someday)!  Ha Ha..

My second major in college and last 20 years of employment was based around Computer software and related technology.. so I feel comfortable in taking on this challenge. I am sure "this old dog" will certainly learn some new tricks on the way! :-)) And could use help and advise always!

Any way that will be my winter project.. An answer bot like SIRI..on i-phone .. only better and focused on Amateur Radio and the legal things you can do on the bands. Weather, data, math, formulas, positioning and stuff you would search for in the day to day Amateur Radio endeavor..

Have already accumulated the machines for the servers and have found the open source software, with plenty of examples on how to do it.. It will be Linux based using Suse or other servers.  Another cross road where Amateur Radio and computers meet.. Only this one will carry on a conversation with you like a chat bot.. Maybe even translate Morse code or other to English for you?

The IBM machine software "Watson" that was used on the game show Jepordy to challenge the All time winners of the show.. was all based on open source SUSE, and AILM code...<http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/17/science/17jeopardy-watson.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0>

On ‘Jeopardy!’ Watson Win Is All but Trivial
The Watson computer’s performance was proof that I.B.M. has taken a big step toward a world in which machines will understand and respond to humans.

"Elmer" will be alive and well someday next year on the 52.97 machine..  He will port into the machine via one of the voter links. Yes, he will talk to you and answer your questions about Amateur Radio! That is the plan and That is going to be the next major goal..

Anyone interested in helping with this project? .. Shoot me an email!

Fun for the winter! And making amateur Radio come alive with current technology!


The 10 Meter repeater Cross Link has been nixed due to concerns of possible improper license issues.

Last Updated on Tuesday, 06 January 2015 17:46

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Raytown group

Have been actively involved in Amateur Radio since 1966.  
Tutored early in teens by "Pappy Teets", A retired Navy Avionics 
communications Electronics instructor / amateur Radio operator.

Then after high school and during a two year Vo-Tech Electronics course 
and was reintroduced to Amateur Radio by "K0PUX (John Campbell, 
Electronics instructor and dear friend, now deceased). 

Currently a Member of Quarter Century Club, CERT certified (via Olathe, 
Ks Fire Department / Johnson County ).  RACES / SATERN member 
(Kansas City Area and Paola, Ks activity. I Get excited about chasing DX 
and Field Day events. Have been known to build and maintain local 
repeaters, set up and operate satellite tracking and communications.
ATV operation back in the 80s. Computer (college trained and career 
certified) savy in every sense. Big value to me is the ability to design, 
manufacture and operate your own(if you want) under the FCC / ARRL 
experimental agreement. 

And I have... (rolled my own... radios and test equipment that is! :-))))  ...   
But lately as the years have gone by... I am liking more the Store
bought equipment. and of course horse trading makes sense too! :-)) 

The Best though... is the community, Friends and service the hobby serves!  
See my many movies at (general)  http://gracetime.com/media  
More poular are How To alternative fuels    http://www.gracetime.com/tv
Ham Page.      http://www.lifeandstory.org/n0crd
Join me at Twitter! https://twitter.com/gracelineusa
We have not, to date, determined where the permanent receive site will be, and would be 
open to suggestions. A little height (roof top) and a Kansas City metro / 
Overland Park / Shawnee / Olathe or other location would be best. 
 Alternatively, If you know where we might have a small roof top area, we would not need the tower. 
We would need it to be equipped with 110 v outlet and a place to set a 6 meter J-Pole along 
with a small 440 Mghz 5 element beam.  
Please give us a shout as we are currently / seriously looking!
 For this piece of the puzzle; the sooner the better!
All in all, the project is still coming together nicely! 
Thanks to the generosity of our community!

June 21, 2014 update
I am betting there are those that are wondering if this project
will ever get done! Life and work has a way of demanding your time.. 
However, the project is very much alive.
We have our first 6 meter receive link positioned in Shawnee, KS.
 Currently installing newer coax and beam link antennas to increase reliability ect. .

K0KN (Kyle) was kind enough to respond to our request for some
pre-wired RJ (mike) connectors and made life a whole lot easier 
in finishing the link modules. Currently he is helping to convert
 a pair of Kenwood radios for the project.

The Temporary central Link receive location with the voter unit is in Olathe. It is operational, waiting for the Shawnee link to come on line. It is test mode.. announcing every 15 minutes on weekends and some week days. Depending on our work / and mods we are doing.

Out of necessity, 4 each 8 element (12 db gain) Quagi beams were manufactured from scratch this last week at a material cost of under $10 each and about 2.5 hours per unit. The performance of these antennas is outstanding and will be used for all the 70 cm control links along with runs of Beldon 9587 (75 ohm) low loss coax. The low SWR and match was so good it required no further matching.

It has become obvious however, That since we have somehow lost the downtown Commercial bank location for our Central point, In order to cover the Kansas City metro and outlying areas ( 50 to 100 + miles) we will have to either increase our 6 meter power output to about 300 watts plus... AND / OR find a much more elevated location for the Central control receive / 6 meter output. Any locations suggestions or equipment donations are now open for consideration..

The Central unit does not have to be in downtown Kansas City.. Currently it is in Olathe it does pretty well. Actually, if we were elevated 100 plus feet, I believe we would do more than OK Add a little more power and all would be good.

If anyone out in Larry's list land happens to have an extra VHF 300 watt or better PA they are not using.. Or even an old tube style 300 watt + 6 meter transmitter, PA or repeater shoved back in a corner somewhere.. We would be interested.. There were many old combination PAs built for 10 meters and 6 meters. We are not picky.. We might be able to convert a 10 meter unit to work 6 meters.

Actually on Ebay there might be a newer / better solutions for increasing the power.. But That requires money we don't have. 1. ME750 6 Meter RF deck - 2x GI7BT's installed - NEW OLD STOCK! 2. 48-73 MHz 300 WATTS 4 METER PROFESSIONAL PALLET RF POWER AMPLIFIER NEW MODEL Both choices would require more Power supply and control modules ect.. More construction. It would be better to find an older, out of service, self contained unit..

Currently we hit Independence, MO (I am told) with an s4 reading.. Corporate Woods S6 - 7, Shawnee 20db over, Desoto 20 db over, Spring Hill s7 to 9, And I have no idea what type of antennas / rigs these reports are coming from. We are good for about 15 to 30 spotty miles.. now. With a correct vertical receive antenna at these remote locations, I believe there would be much signal improvement. at these locations. Of course, to best receive the 6 meter 52.97 Mhz signal it is always good to have a vertical polarized antenna tuned to the 6 meter center frequency you are trying to receive. (like the inexpensive J-pole).

By the way, anyone wanting a home brew j-pole built for them, I will be happy to manufacture one for them for a cost of about $25 FOB my place.. That would be a break even cost considering wear on tools etc. The antenna itself would be about 15 ft tall but very slender (easily handled) and made of electrical conduits. @ 52.97 mHZ about a 1.5 to 1 swr. or less. Something you could easily put up beside your residence. I put mine on top of my HF beam mast. Works great! Home brew J-pole Equipped with an SO 239 coax socket for your PL259 connector / coax and Ready to mount on your 1 1/4 inch pole or other. Antennas would be built in batch lots.

We hope to have full repeater function with the first link up before the end of JUNE. We hope! Any comments, Suggestions or other is always welcomed!
Last Updated on Wednesday, 09 July 2014 17:29

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The N0CRD KC 6 Meter Community Portal is now online. Here, you will find a constant source of information about the activities, and of contributors, powering the N0CRD KC 6 Meter Project. Learn about  KC 6 Meter Project Events, and see if there is a KC 6 Meter / or other Project Receiver Node (or User Group) nearby. The KC 6 Meter Project promises an interesting overview of feature articles, community accomplishments, learning topics, and project updates each month.

Also, check out KC 6 Meter Project. This aggregated feed brings together KC 6 Meter Project news from all over the area in terms you can understand! Get the latest and greatest by visiting here frequently.

The KC 6 Meter Update June 2015
The project is still alive.. and the 6 meter repeater is still cranking like clock work..
although it is somewhat a weak signal generator only putting out 100 watts using  a antenna of about 3db gain or less and only 35 feet off the ground.
That being said,  We have had little difficulty in the reliability department. Some of the audio problems of the repeater have been discovered and corrected.
The announcement machine and echo station controller has been working great!
The ARRL news line reports are playing at 7:10AM and every 5 hours there after every day.
Other reports are posted when available.

The 100 watt out put from Olathe can be heard faintly in the Independence, MO area and a ways north of North land.

I have been able to work the machine with my Yaesu 857D mobile (80 watts) from the corporate woods area, North land, and generally this side of the MOKAN border.
Going South it fades quick past Spring Hill unless you are on a hilltop.

Promise of new opportunities may be in the making.. and realized in the coming months, to improve the whole 6 meter repeater performance.
But to make sure the next step is better we want to up the 6 meter power out.. by quite a bit.

If there is someone out there that is willing to help us with the donation of an old HF linear amplifier that is set up to operate on 6 meters / 10 meters
(preferably 300 watts and up to 1 kw... working or not...  tube or solid state...  CB or Amateur Band)  It will get us closer to our goal..
If you know of one.. but it does not do 6 meters.. That is OK as we can with a little effort / modification..  make it work on 6 meters!

If you know of someone that has any of this kind of old equipment (faulty or not) stored and not in use.. broken or other wise...
Please know that we can probably repair or modify it and put it into good civic service.

Many old 200 + watt outlaw CB amplifiers for 27 mghz can be converted to 50 mghz with out to much effort..
There were a lot of these old units made.. but I don't know where they have gone.
Tube units work great.. they just consume more energy..
There is a old tube style 300 watt 6 meter repeater up in Michigan ( I think) on E-Bay that has been for sale for a long time.. .
but the folks want $900 and will not take less.. with no guarantee that it is well.  The freight would eat us up and we might end up with a boat anchor..
The same money would buy a new solid state unit.   We are trying to keep cash out of this equation if possible..
Our talents and efforts to repair / modify and deploy is the best answer..

It would be better to invest our monies / time to repair.. into something we can acquire within the MO-Kan or other region
and fix.  Knowing the stuff may not work correctly to start with...

We have some very talented engineers, technicians and great Amateur Radio advocates ready to help in the repair,
upgrade or conversion of any HF / CB/ PA that might show up.. 
The ideal situation would be to come across something that would generate 500 to 1 KW.  But even 300 watts would be great!
I did see a unit like this over at Dave Chase 's garage (Lake of the Ozarks) earlier this year.. It had no power supply.
Now I am thinking maybe we can piece this with a power supply  that someone else might have..  Who knows?
Maybe there are many units like this sitting there collecting dust. Lets put them to work!

I have been trying several experiments with the old Maratrac mobile units in an effort to increase the power out of the 6 meter repeater..
Not succeeding well in that arena..
I believe finding an old commercial, Heath KIT or home brew 10 or 6 meter power amp, will in the long run,  be a better option.
Remember, we have some great opportunities for positioning the 6 meter receiver links around the KC area..

Trouble is..  we need much more than 100 watts power out to make those areas functional.______________________________________________________________________________
KC 6 Meter repeater Update..   Ready for the 442.625 Cross band?   April 13, 2015
The KC 6 Meter Repeater is still operating very well.. and has been revamped to include Motorola GM300 s for link receivers..Audio has improved much.
We are currently using the link receiver in Shawnee, Ks. We have other link receivers / antennas built and ready to install. Since no local volunteers
in the (Olathe / Spring Hill / Gardner/ Belton direction) area have stepped up to house a local link receiver / x miter in the Southern half of
Johnson county, We are going to try to find or manufacture a duplexer for the 6 meter receive / transmit function. Yes I know.. it will be a challenge.
but have found many designs already detailed and proven.. If someone out there has access to short pieces (4 foot or more) of the larger
Heliax I have a good use for them. Will be modeling after the KF6YB six meter Heliax Duplexer project. OR W5FN design. Google these for more info.
Any help or guidance would be appreciated!
Very soon now the KC 6 Meter Repeater and a 70 cm pair (based in Olathe, Ks) will be cross banded with the new N0CRD repeater..
( 442.625/ 447.625 Machine is now being assembled) allowing one to talk on two bands at one time. Which means (for the new and old hams)

two important notes when the 70 cm machine becomes available....
1. If you access the new 442.625 machine (with an input frequency of 447.625) with your hand held or whatever, you will also be
talking on the 52.97 machine. and visa verse. Remember, if you want to work the 6 meter machine.. it has an odd input of 51.27.  Both will have a PL of 91.5.
2. For several weeks now we have been almost flawlessly transmitting the ARRL weekly Audio newscast on the 52.97 repeater.   If you want to tune in and listen, it starts its day at 7:10 AM and repeats every 5 hours up until 10:30 PM. 7:10AM, 12:10 PM, 5:10PM and 10:10PM.. Every Day.Updated sometime during each weekend except on Holidays weekends.
Also You may be interested in the audio version of the Amateur Radio world news (An independent source of Amateur Radio news), updated weekly..It is transmitted at 7:10 PM daily. (About 30 minutes long.)Because of ARRL and Federal regulations you will hear and experience timely repeater interrupts (time outs and Station IDs to keep all very legal).
All computer controlled using the Echo Station Software. Works great! Overall you will find the audio to be pleasant and flowing nicely.
Here is some news I think you might be interested in.. While building the 6 meter repeater.. the one thing that would have been very handy..  is a 6 meter handy talky! For several years I had owned a Yaesu VX7. It had the 6 meter band along with 144 and 430 mghz..
But then I sold it.. long before the 6 meter repeater project ever started.
Then, last week I caught a glimpse of a VX6E being advertised with 4 each bands! Yes you heard right! 6meters, two meters, 220 band and 440 band!
It is the European version. Even better, these units were "New Old stock! Never used! I took a chance and it arrived yesterday! Just as advertised
and a whole bunch more of Pre programmed European features I did not expect but seem to work here in the USA too! Works as advertised...
It was the last one they had in stock. Wow!


July 20, 2014 update

The KC 92.7 / 91.27 (91.5 pl)  6 meter transmitter / repeater system seems to work well.  It is an OPEN repeater for anyone to use!
Announcements every 15 minutes for your identifying pleasure..
The repeater is in full operation at this time. Voting system seems to function correctly and waiting on more remote nodes to be installed.

We need information from the Amateur radio community once again to measure the effectiveness of the KC 6 meter repeater. If the Amateur radio community who have the ability to transmit to the 6 meter FM repeater, could take a moment, and try to communicate or bring up the machine and share your results. it would be most helpful.
If you bring it up, it will give you a courtesy beep and cw id.

The questions about your experience with the 52.97 repeater we are wanting answered are as follows:

Your call sign....................
Your location?...................
Your transmit power?...............
Your antenna  (mobile, base, vertical horizontal or other)........................
Our 52.97 signal report? ..................


We have had some trials at this end:  Bad coax being replaced
and now we are finding out the true colors of our 30 year old radios.
Decided to test all links and found the Maxtrac (link 4 radio) receive was deaf.  Replacing it.

The node 3 pair wasn't even programmed for the link #3 and apparently couldn't be, (working on that).

1.  The Node 1 central receive - Tested, installed and up.  Remote receive installed at Shawnee.
2.  The Node 2 central receive tested, working and waiting on remote node install
3.  The Node 3  central receive - Waiting for a new or repaired pair of radios.  (Old Motorola sm50s not programmed correctly)
4.  The Node 4  central receive - Deaf Motorola uhf maxtrac needs replaced, waiting on remote node install.
5.  The Node 5 central receive tested, Up and waiting for remote node install.

The Shawnee location was equipped with remote node 1 equipment.
The node remote is tested, installed and working well.

If you have the ability to transmit and receive on 6 meters FM (repeater input. 51.27 with 91.5 pl and receive on 52.97 FM  You probably could / would bring up the Shawnee machine.

The Shawnee remote should have an effective receive radius of about 25 to 30 miles depending on your elevation and power. I bring it up with 30 watts or less with my mobile rig.

The 52.97 transmitter (70 watts) in Olathe should also be good for about 25 to 30 miles or more, and you should have no trouble if you have a well matched vertical receive antenna like a j-pole or vertical dipole.
Of course if you are further away.. and have a horizontal 6 meter beam.. go for it!

In the beginning when promised a central site in down town KC.. The design was to surround the central location..
However, that site was withdrawn at Christmas.. 2013.  So a new direction was elected..
Simply install as many remote nodes as possible.. starting with the closest remote node location...
Slowly add more remote receive nodes...
Then  increase the transmit power to +/- 300 watts.
300 watts transmit from Olathe should give good coverage to a 50- 75 mile transmit radius
The remote receive nodes in concert with the voting technology we have should work great!

The Shawnee site sits at 16.2 miles from central receive. and works well from my mobile (using only 30 watts and less).
Of course the closer in to Shawnee you are.. the less power it will take to bring the repeater up..
In a 20 to 30 mile radius of Shawnee (maybe more??)  I would think 30 watts would work. It does for me.

The proposed Independence, MO site is 47.2 miles from Olathe.  When in the beginning it would have been only 15 to 20 miles..
It was going to be the first remote node. but now we will need to have more power (70 cm / 100 watts?) on our link system
or a change in link method. (ie via internet?).

The Raytown site is again about 25 miles from Olathe.. Still can work waiting on a tower to be completed.

The Osawatomie site is about 30.3 miles. Still can work.  Needs more testing on link receive, etc.  Maybe next?

Lees Summit is about 29 miles. Still can work.  Waiting on a location.

A remote site in Lawrence, Ks would be viable.  Need location for the remote node.

To date, if we were to purchase all the equipment (in a used state) currently ready for use and charge for the amount of hours all have volunteered, I have estimated the project would have already expended well over $7500 to 10,000.


Yet, we are on the verge of having a metro wide system capable of cross banding and being positioned to offer multiple Amateur radio services to the community for very little dollars (compared to real cost) but a lot of volunteered equipment / man hours.

We have gone too far to stop now!


July  12, 2014 Update!______________________________________

For the past few weeks the 6 Meter repeater has actually been on the air... off and on.

Receive Node Number 1 has been established in the Shawnee Kansas area.
52.97 out with 51.27 input PL 91.5...  announcements every 15 minutes.
Still getting the wrinkles out!

From this day forward we will leave the machine on full time (with exception of mods and repairs
and a possible move to a new central location)..
Please note the 6 meter system is a vertical polarized antenna transmission.  70 watts at 40 ft.
So a vertical J-Pole will do great for your local KC (Shawnee node 1 area)  6 meter contacts.

We are still dealing with radio receive sensitivity issues, However, the system is working as advertised!
The voting unit is appearing to be working correctly.
Because of the success we have with the Shawnee location..
Our plans are to set two more Receive nodes around the KC Metro in the very near future.

85 % of All the KC 6 Meter project equipment we have..
has  been donated / modified and most is over 20 years old.
That being said .. please understand we are still gleaning equipment,
solving operation problems and planning for success.
All this balanced with work and home life.  Family always comes first!

We are not complaining..
We are rejoicing for those who have shared used radios, power supplies, coax and antenna, poles and all.
Not to mention those who have shared their time, skills and willing to donate home space.
I tell you this type of friendship and sharing holds up and waves the true flag and spirit of Ham Radio.

While it has taken a lot of patience, testing and modification.. (months of it)
We and the 6 meter repeater project participants are on the final stretch.

What we are doing is merely demonstrating to all..
If you have the will to learn, put your hands to use..  and execute on your idea..
you can make something out of most anything.. sometimes out of almost nothing!:-))
In our case the transceivers are old and generally discarded 400 and 50 MHz equipment.
Old Coax and Hard Line coupled with handmade clamps, supports and
antennas.  Some of which you don't know it is faulty till you put it in service!

Because of a shortage of old commercial antennas for our project..
We decided to try to build Good effective Antennas..  to fill the void.
And according to many ARRL handbooks You can do just that. So we did just that..

We have yagi beams antennas demonstrating 15 db gain..
manufactured out of #9 clothes line wire, 3/4 " wood and #12 copper house wire ( Our 400 MHz Qagi beams.)

Our 6 meter (3db  gain) J-Poles out of your kids old Swing set legs..
and cheap conduit / chain link top rails from Home Depot!
We are going to try to build some co-linear antennas that demonstrate 9 to 15 db
out of RG8 (not foam fill but hard fill coax) per ARRL handbook instructions.
This KC 6 meter project process has not come without multiple challenges.
Kinda like life.
It is how you meet those challenges... is what separates success from failure.
Having the patience to examine, determine the best course of action and then execute.
Not to get in a hurry or rush. and to expect more challenges.

For me.. It is truly a fun project that has created new friendships, acquaintances and increased my knowledge! _______________________________________________________________________________________________________

Jan 28, 2014..      What brought about this big project??

What was absent and needed in the KC area was for a public service, area wide  Kansas City 6 meter public safety communication system... for the Amateur Radio Community.  To be used as back up or primary use. This project is not just another simple radio repeater system, But one in which there will be a RF 50 MGHz receiver in every major surrounding communities (up to 10 each nodes planned at this time) surrounding KC, MO.

What this project amounts to is finding volunteers, locations and operators needed for establishing 10 each geographic node locations. The general idea of the system was to have one central voting / transmit site, with ten each remote site receivers.

Needed to even start and complete this project was to have donated or built...30 each transceivers with all the parts (cabinets, screws / hardware), electrical), 21 lengths of coax with connectors, 20 each UHF antennas, 11 each VHF 6 meter "J-Beam" antennas, 11 each "586" computers complete with control software installed and programmed for Node control / station ID on each node, 1 each central computer control, Internet interface for all locations, 2 each (5 station) voter machines and 11 each low ripple (professional) power supplies.

And of course finding the expert volunteer labor to program and electronically interface all the radios, install and operate all the antennas and tower necessities. Not to leave out finding the volunteer hours to monitor and administrate each node. I have in a very big way, also donating hours to build, wire and fine tune each node, set up / program each 586 computer along with interfacing the central control and voting system site.

The idea is each Node receiver will then relay back from low powered 6 meter transceivers(via linking 70 centimeter radios) to a central Transmitter site . Each of the incoming node signals will then be processed by commercial built voting machines.  With the strongest / signal to noise ratio winning the vote. Then that audio being re-transmitted to all the area... via a 100 watt or higher power, using the transmitter frequency of 52.97 MGHZ .

The project after 7 months is now 75 % complete!  Come Spring and warm weather.. the first 5 each nodes will be installed and brought into service!

The idea is to allow very low to medium powered 6 meter (50 mghz) Amateur Radios to access the area wide (5000 member strong) Amateur radio community. Hopefully to use for public service and every day communication. A challenge that has actually introduced me to newer technologies, created new friendships and kept me very active and alert.

Life is still interesting and fun!

More info on the project and monthly updates will be available …

Last Updated on Saturday, 06 June 2015 23:06

We are Volunteers

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The  KC 6 Meter Project Core Team and Working Group members are volunteer developers, designers, administrators and managers who have worked together to take the KC 6 Meter Project to new heights in its relatively short life. The KC 6 Meter Project has some wonderfully talented people taking Open Source concepts and old used wide band radios to the forefront of amateur radio standards. The KC 6 Meter Project is a major leap forward using proven concepts used by city / county governments in communicating with low powered mobiles (in not so well covered areas) .. and represents the most exciting KC 6 Meter Project in the KC area.  And if it were not for the generosity of all the donors....  donations of old radios, antenna materials, power supplies, Node locations.. This project would not be happening!  Most important are the folks who have been generous with there time  and labor in their helping with guidance,  programming radios, setting up computers and many task too numerous to mention!

It is a Grand experiment still unfolding!  Keep your fingers crossed.

Last Updated on Tuesday, 11 February 2014 10:13

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N0CRD is sponsoring (along with multitude others) and directing the installation of an area wide  KC 6 Meter Project (Kansas City metro radius of 35 + miles).  It is an ambitious project that has so far taken (as of 2-10-2014) seven months.  The project is about 75 % complete.  The harsh winter and cold is slowing things down!